- It's IRS.
- So I got this IRS mail saying if I qualify for a refund of $475.00 with this same number 800 829 0922 address Internal revenue service Fresno .ca 93888. So your saying It is in Fact a legit IRS number ..meaning not a fraud (mail)
- Caller: Internal revenue service
- History: We complained in 2014 that are IRS refund check had not arrived.
They then sent us a replacement check without apparently cancelling the
original check. Up to this point no problem. The in 2015 our 2014 IRS check
was not forthcoming. We complained. We then get a letter stating that we had
cashed both of the 2013 IRS refund checks. They (IRS) sent us a copy of the
cashed checks. One (the original missing one) contained an obvious forged
signature. Any person with an IQ of 20 or more would have realized this. The
bank cashing this bogus signature check is in in a state which we have never
been in. (State and bank name omitted to protect the guilty !). The first
mailing from the IRS regarding this problem asked for information which we
promptly supplied. The due date for this information wa slate July. Within a
week of teh original submission of this information we get a very nasty
form letter from a DIFFERENT supposedly valid IRS site demanding we pay the
amount that was contained on the IRS 2013 refund check. The letter looked
like it came from a phony "IRS scam" site. We called our state Attorney General's
office. Their advise was to have NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SECOND SITE
until one can independently verify that this was a valid IRS site. How this was to
be done was somewhat vague--like contacting a second supposedly valid IRS site.
If this seems like a catch 22 problem you are not alone.
Some possible suggestions on how to proceed if you have such problems:
1. Contact your local state attorney general's off ice for their advise;
2.If you live in Andover Mass contact the local police to investigate that site
(if appears that this is the town originating these scare tactic letters)
3. Contact the FBI for help investigating a possible IRS scam
4. Contact local media like TV Radio stations of Newspapers to see if
others are being subject to such scare tactics and find what the media
thinks about such things--maybe they can verify tyhat these are really
just nothing more than IRS scam-ers rather than valid IRS but back PR sites.
5. If this site is a valid IRS site --question how does one distinguish this from
a typical invalid IRS site that is just out to get more money from you or me.
6. If these "IRS mailing" are IRS form letters, then one should ask if these mailings
were copied from valid IRS mailings by scam artists and then resent from
a third site. How can one tell.
7. If these mailings were true IRS ones then maybe they need a new PR person
i.e., one that does not authorize sending forms that look like they are from IRS
scam-ers. Did the IRS hire an IRS-scam-er: as their current PR person ????
8. Contact your local Congressman or US Senator for aid --maybe they can
help--they might be interested in such IRS scams or tactics?
9. Contact Senators and/or Congressmen on the IRS over-site committees in
in congress maybe they can put a stop to these things???
10. Contacting the ACLU for possible violations of the US constitution's Bill
of rights :
here especially the fourth (illegal seizure of assets)
the fifth no person shall be deprived of property without due process
(what ever that means from an IRS viewpoint)
the 6-th public trial
the 8-th on excessive fines
any maybe others as well.
I our case we believe our check was part of a widespread operation of
stealing IRS refund checks and then either reselling these stolen checks
or cashing them in by the original thieves. The people involved here were
subsequently arrested and were found tto have in their possession stolen but
uncashed checks worth over a million dollars as well as many thousands of dollars
(presumably from other checks they had sold or cashed in themselves). Note AS
FAR AS WE KNOW THE IRS HAS NOT GONE AFTER EITHER THE ORIGINAL THIEVES
OR THE BANKS THAT WERE CASHING THESE STOLEN CHECKS. It is maybe easier
the scare individual taxpayers in coming up with the money rather than banks who have
lawyers on hand to defend their questionable practices..The problem individuals has
is a parody on an old joke:
THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE ARE PAYING THREE CENTS (POSTAGE) TO TELL
YOU THAT YOU HAVE A BANK BALANCE OF 2 CENTS.
Only difference here is spending several thousands for a lawyer to collect or defend
oneself over a much less amount of money. This is how to intimidate
one without being guilty of anything. RIGHT!!!!
- NO COMMENTS TO INDICATE ANY WRONG..
- Caller: HAIRCRAFTERS
- Call type: Telemarketer
- Got a letter saying we owe money. With this number on the paper.